Unable to write configuration on VMB2BL (solved)

Golfy · August 28, 2017, 3:04pm

Hi Velus team,

I’m trying to write full configuration on BLIND modules because strange things appears (interaction with buttons : when downing some blind, few modules not concerned, blind-up their blinds).
But even through USB with VelbusLink (9.80.0.9) directly connected, I’ve got a message with “Synchronisation failed for module XX”
3 modules are concerned by this problem (on 8 VMB2BL with 0815 version each)

I’ll continue to test physical link and screw, etc but I need some advice to go further…

MDAR · August 28, 2017, 3:55pm

Hi Golfy

I don’t know if this will help at all…

I had a strange problem with 3 of the new VMB1BLS in an installation a few months ago.

They took the programming okay, but in operation they would stop randomly, but know the position they stopped in.

It took me days to get to the bottom of it.

In the end, I increased the bus voltage and that cured it

Good luck,

Stuart

Golfy · August 28, 2017, 7:36pm

My problem seems more important. I’ve tried to scan my bus with CountError functions. The liste contains modules from .vlp file (Velbuslink file project).

Reading file…
Found 71 Modules
Scanning Errors…
address=“01”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:127,BusOff:0
address=“02”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:126,BusOff:0
address=“04”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:124,BusOff:0
address=“06”,type=“VMB6IN”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:122,BusOff:0
address=“07”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:120,BusOff:0
address=“08”,type=“VMB4RYNO”,build=“1217”,Error count=TX:0,RX:120,BusOff:0
address=“0B”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:118,BusOff:0
address=“0C”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:116,BusOff:0
address=“0D”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:114,BusOff:0
address=“0E”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:114,BusOff:0
address=“10”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=TX:0,RX:112,BusOff:0
address=“11”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:110,BusOff:0
address=“12”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:108,BusOff:0
address=“13”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:106,BusOff:0
address=“14”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=TX:0,RX:104,BusOff:0
address=“21”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=TX:0,RX:102,BusOff:0
address=“22”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=TX:0,RX:100,BusOff:0
address=“23”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=TX:0,RX:98,BusOff:0
address=“25”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=TX:0,RX:96,BusOff:0
address=“26”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=
address=“27”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0817”,Error count=
address=“29”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=
address=“2A”,type=“VMB1DM”,build=“1006”,Error count=
address=“2B”,type=“VMBDME”,build=“1046”,Error count=
address=“2C”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=
address=“2E”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=
address=“2F”,type=“VMB4RYNO”,build=“1327”,Error count=TX:0,RX:103,BusOff:0
address=“34”,type=“VMB4RYNO”,build=“1105”,Error count=TX:0,RX:103,BusOff:0
address=“35”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=
address=“36”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=
address=“37”,type=“VMB2BL”,build=“0815”,Error count=
address=“38”,type=“VMB4RY”,build=“0818”,Error count=
address=“39”,type=“VMB6IN”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:108,BusOff:0
address=“70”,type=“VMB1TC”,build=“1001”,Error count=TX:0,RX:107,BusOff:0
address=“71”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“72”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“73”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“74”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“76”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“1001”,Error count=TX:0,RX:108,BusOff:0
address=“77”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“1001”,Error count=
address=“78”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“79”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“7A”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“7B”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“7C”,type=“VMB1TS”,build=“0927”,Error count=
address=“A0”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:114,BusOff:0
address=“A2”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:112,BusOff:0
address=“A3”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:112,BusOff:0
address=“A4”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:110,BusOff:0
address=“A5”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:110,BusOff:0
address=“A7”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:108,BusOff:0
address=“A8”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:106,BusOff:0
address=“AA”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:106,BusOff:0
address=“AB”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:104,BusOff:0
address=“AC”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:102,BusOff:0
address=“AD”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:101,BusOff:0
address=“B1”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:99,BusOff:0
address=“B2”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:97,BusOff:0
address=“B3”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:94,BusOff:0
address=“C1”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:92,BusOff:0
address=“C3”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:90,BusOff:0
address=“C4”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:88,BusOff:0
address=“C6”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:86,BusOff:0
address=“C7”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:84,BusOff:0
address=“C9”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:82,BusOff:0
address=“CA”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:80,BusOff:0
address=“CB”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:78,BusOff:0
address=“CD”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0649”,Error count=TX:0,RX:76,BusOff:0
address=“CE”,type=“VMB4PD”,build=“0825”,Error count=TX:0,RX:74,BusOff:0
address=“D1”,type=“VMB8PB”,build=“0736”,Error count=TX:0,RX:72,BusOff:0
address=“F1”,type=“VMB4RYNO”,build=“1327”,Error count=TX:0,RX:70,BusOff:0
End of Scan.

Many modules didn’t answers, rather a 500ms timeout (by experience, answer are less than 150ms)
By the way, the VMB6In module has 2 blinking led (input 1 and 2)…

Golfy · August 28, 2017, 8:14pm

End of problem !!!

Here is how I try to troubleshoot :

Use a little program (I’ll develop and share it when more user friendly) to see which modules are able to send me RX/TX/BusOff message
Looking for common point : same wires (star topology and some bus topology), floor, power supply, same types, etc.
No common point found, but operationnal modules shows RX errors (see message below).
Try to reset every modules (shuting down my 2 power supply)

Everything get up and was working.
Check again for errors on the bus : nothing… should be a problem when debuging PB-Velbus-server 3.24 (a bug was removing some frames, when reading/writing memory).

Hope this thread would help for troubleshoot a long time working installation (I was sure no wire was inverted and power supply where well sized).

address=“01” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 PC0 - Ch/Cuisine/X/Hotte
address=“02” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 PC0 - Ext/SàM/SdB/Bureau
address=“04” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 FPilote RdC
address=“06” type=“VMB6IN” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB6IN - RdC
address=“07” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L0 - P.Gge/Comble/cuisine/Ext
address=“08” type=“VMB4RYNO” build=“1217” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4RYNO - portail
address=“0B” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L0 - SàM1/Salon/Bur.
address=“0C” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L0 - Buand/Ch1/SàM2/SdB1
address=“0D” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - Chevet Béa
address=“0E” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - Chevet David
address=“10” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L0 - Bar/Gge/SdB2/Terrasse
address=“11” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - Salon
address=“12” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - Bureau
address=“13” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - WC
address=“14” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D0 - Couloir RdC
address=“21” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V1 - Amis/SàM
address=“22” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V0 - Salon
address=“23” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V0 - Cuisine
address=“25” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V1 - Alexandre/Grenier
address=“26” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L1 - Ext/SdB/Balc + PC1 SdB
address=“27” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0817” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 PC1 - Alex/Amis/Gre/Bast
address=“29” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L1 - Alex/Bastien/Amis/SdB
address=“2A” type=“VMB1DM” build=“1006” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D1 - Chevet Alexandre
address=“2B” type=“VMBDME” build=“1046” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 D1 - Chevet Bastien
address=“2C” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V1 - Bastien/Store
address=“2E” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 L1 - SJeu/WC/Coul/Che Amis
address=“2F” type=“VMB4RYNO” build=“1327” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 FP - Alex/Babou/Amis/Grenier
address=“34” type=“VMB4RYNO” build=“1105” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V0 - 1
address=“35” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V1 - Grenier-Puit (Velux)
address=“36” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V1 - Sirene/XX
address=“37” type=“VMB2BL” build=“0815” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 V0 - parents-Bureau
address=“38” type=“VMB4RY” build=“0818” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMC + FPilote
address=“39” type=“VMB6IN” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB6IN - 1er
address=“70” type=“VMB1TC” build=“1001” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 TC - Temp Control
address=“71” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Ch. Parents
address=“72” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Salon
address=“73” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - SdB RdC
address=“74” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Extérieure
address=“76” type=“VMB1TS” build=“1001” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - VMC-In
address=“77” type=“VMB1TS” build=“1001” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Couloir RdC
address=“78” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Ch Bastien
address=“79” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Ch Alexandre
address=“7A” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Ch Amis
address=“7B” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - SdB 1er
address=“7C” type=“VMB1TS” build=“0927” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 T - Grenier
address=“A0” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Ch. David
address=“A2” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Ch. Béatrice
address=“A3” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Ch. Parents
address=“A4” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Salon
address=“A5” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Salon
address=“A7” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Cuisine/Bar
address=“A8” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Cuisine
address=“AA” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - MASTER
address=“AB” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Bureau
address=“AC” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Bureau
address=“AD” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Couloir RdC
address=“B1” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Ch Parents (entrée)
address=“B2” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - WC RdC
address=“B3” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Escalier RdC
address=“C1” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - SdB 1er
address=“C3” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Grenier
address=“C4” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Grenier
address=“C6” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Bastien
address=“C7” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Bastien
address=“C9” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Alexandre
address=“CA” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Amis
address=“CB” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Alexandre
address=“CD” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0649” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - Amis (fenetre)
address=“CE” type=“VMB4PD” build=“0825” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 VMB4PD - Amis
address=“D1” type=“VMB8PB” build=“0736” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 BP8 - WC 1er
address=“F1” type=“VMB4RYNO” build=“1327” Error count=TX:0 RX:0 BusOff:0 PC-Pisc. L-ExtSol

Golfy · August 29, 2017, 8:37am

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