VMB6PB-20 <--> Hörmann Supramatic E7

Hi all,

I’m trying to install the new VMB6PB-20 onto my Hörmann Supramatic E7 based on this thread.
However the garage door opener is slighty different and the module I’m trying to use was also not tested in that thread.
This is how I connected the wires


and this is what I changed in VelbusLink.







Thanks in advance for your replies and helping me to get this working!

Great.

How much functionality have you achieved so far?

This will help us guide you in the right direction.

@MDAR First of all, I’m sorry for the extremely late response. I’ve been busy with work and I’ve been on vacation as well. I haven’t managed to get anything working at all :sweat_smile: I will give you the instruction manual of my garage door.
How does the VMB6PB-20 work exactly? Does it map the output LEDs to the Push Button or vice versa?
Anyway thanks in advance for your help!


I think that makes sense.

Just a matter of linking the correct contacts of the VMB6PB to the terminals of the Hormann

BUT !!!

Before you do that, can you confirm that –

  • Terminals 14, 20 & 21 are 0V or at least show Zero voltage (PD) compared the Ground connection

Hi @MDAR, I’ve checked and the terminals don’t show any voltage. On the LED output side, I’ve connected 20 to -, 21 to 1 and 14 to 2. I don’t have any idea what to connect to the pushbutton side. I’ve tried almost all the combinations and nothing seems to work. For now I’ve connected 20 to - on the pushbutton side. What I’ve noticed though, is that the motor turns on when the power state of terminal 20 changes. But when I push the button in VelbusLink, nothing happens. I feel like we’re almost there :slight_smile:

OK

So first of all, let’s get you some Door status information onto the Velbus.

Can you connect

  • Pin 5 to the common (-) connection of the 6PB button connection
  • Pin 6 to Button 1 connection
  • Pin 8 to Button 2 connection

Then confirm that when you open and close the door, Buttons 1 and 2 in VelbusLink show state changes.

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The next stage, getting control of your garage door FROM Velbus is slighting more complex.

You need to change the configuration of the VMB6PB-20 so that the LED feedback becomes something you can control.

The attached VLP file is set for this, please review the settings carefully before proceeding.
VMB6PB as Hormann.vlp (10.3 KB)

Right hand click on the VMB6PB-20 and look at the settings on every tab.

For example

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When you are happy to proceed.

Please ALSO connect the (-) terminal of the VMB6PB-20 to pin 14 of the door controller. (NOT THE CL connection)

Output 1 of the VMB6PB-20 to pin 15 of the door controller
Output 2 of the VMB6PB-20 to pin 17 of the door controller

The next step is to add Actions between the Buttons of which every module you want to use to control the door and Feedback LED

THIS HAS TO BE TWO ACTIONS as it is not automatic

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The first action will be a 0135 Monitoring between the Button of a glass panel (In this example) to the LED state of the VMB6PB-20

When the glass panel button is pressed, it will trigger the LED / Output of the VMB6PB-20 and (hopefully) operate the Horrmann door.

The second action (is optional) between the VMB6PB-20 button and the LED feedback of the Glass panel button.

What should happen here is that the Horrmann output should affect the Feedback LED state of the glass panel.

Please let us all know how you get on.

This is offered as friendly advice and not official Velbus usage instructions

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First of all, a big thanks for your detailed explanations! So I connected the 5, 6 and 8 to -, 1 and 2 respectively. Before I changed the feedback mode on the 6PB, I checked the response in VelbusLink of button 1 and 2, but only button 1 was being pressed and not 2. I configured the rest as you explained but the garage door, unfortunately, does not open.

Oh right.

So first things first, resolve why the open / close events aren’t registering.

Secondly, I suspect you’ll need some kind of mini relay / optoisolator between the led outputs of the VMB6PB-20 and the Hormann inputs.

I’d use the 2 channel 12V version of these

Vellemann 4ch version

We decided to go with the VMB4RYNO-10 instead because of how much easier it was to install and for me to understand. What I did was, I connected port 14 to 1 and bridged it to 2, connected 15 (up) to 1’ and 17 (down) to 2’. I mapped buttons in HA to give relays 1 and 2 a 1s pulse and now it’s working flawlessly! I’m very happy with how it turned out and wanted to thank you for all your help!

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